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RWAP wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:39 pm Oddly the Frogger game published in QL World would not work on the original Trump Card, even after RES_128.

It was the only program where I ever found this issue - any other program worked after RES_128 and still had access to the floppy disks.

Reading the comments above, it looks as though RES_128 has been changed since then?

I would not rely on the RESET commands in Beule Tools - without looking at the source code, who knows what it does compared to the Trump Card RES_128?
Yes, RES_128 was changed in TC v2.18

I 'borrowed" the code from Beule Tools to use in my own toolkit (not sure if I changed much, probably not), but haven't compared it to the TC code

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RESETT   move.w   CA.GTINT,a2
         jsr      (a2)
         subq.w   #1,d3
         bne.s    FULL_RES
         move.w   0(a6,a1.l),d2
         divu     #64,d2
         andi.l   #$FFFF,d2
         mulu     #64,d2
         cmpi.l   #896,d2
         bgt.s    ERROR_BP
         cmpi.l   #128,d2
         blt.s    ERROR_BP
         add.w    #128,d2
         mulu     #1024,d2
         move.l   d2,a4
         trap     #0
         ori.w    #$700,SR
         lea      $C0000,a1
         lea      $10000,a0
         move.w   #$FFF,d0
SHIFT    move.l   (a0)+,(a1)+
         dbf      d0,SHIFT
         jmp      $184
ERROR_BP moveq    #ERR.BP,d0
         rts
FULL_RES TRAP     #0
         reset
         


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Re: Floppy Drives with TrumpMini3 Woes

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I can’t live with Minerva’s incompatibility with lots of old software on my main machine (and spare QL’s are in storage)

So will stick with JS & original Trump card for now and keep the MTC3 for use in a spare QL with Minerva mk2 in the future

Also, if JS+MTC3+Qsound could cause hardware damage as per stated in another thread then probably safest to just swap original Trump & Qsound as needed

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RWAP wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:39 pm Oddly the Frogger game published in QL World would not work on the original Trump Card, even after RES_128.

It was the only program where I ever found this issue - any other program worked after RES_128 and still had access to the floppy disks.

Reading the comments above, it looks as though RES_128 has been changed since then?

I would not rely on the RESET commands in Beule Tools - without looking at the source code, who knows what it does compared to the Trump Card RES_128?
Hi Rich,

Can you remember which version of Trump Card Rom that the RES_128 had floppy disk access.


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Older (floppy) drives have had jumpers or micro switches, with which it was possible, to select the driver number (1 to 4/0 to 3) on a Shugart Bus. So no twisting of the cable was needed.


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Derek_Stewart wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:19 pm
RWAP wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 4:39 pm Oddly the Frogger game published in QL World would not work on the original Trump Card, even after RES_128.

It was the only program where I ever found this issue - any other program worked after RES_128 and still had access to the floppy disks.

Reading the comments above, it looks as though RES_128 has been changed since then?

I would not rely on the RESET commands in Beule Tools - without looking at the source code, who knows what it does compared to the Trump Card RES_128?
Hi Rich,

Can you remember which version of Trump Card Rom that the RES_128 had floppy disk access.
No, unfortunately - it might have beenm v1.27 or v1.28


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Have found the memory reset problem

The MT3 works the same as Trump 1 768k when its configured with the full 768k extra RAM (could of sworn I tested that, maybe had the jumpers wrong)

It’s only when its configured with only 512kb of extra RAM that the MT3 vanishes when reset to a different total memory

Am now wondering if there maybe a software solution to this with the reset utility, probably not though

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Can you indicate me the exact configuration do you have?
Including versions of gals and Roms, PCB (perhaps a picture) and jumpers?

There were some develop of each of this elements, and first I need to clarify what are you using.


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aalea wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 12:28 pm Can you indicate me the exact configuration do you have?
Including versions of gals and Roms, PCB (perhaps a picture) and jumpers?

There were some develop of each of this elements, and first I need to clarify what are you using.
I purchased this already assembled, so can't tell you the GAL version

I'm happy to program a new GAL to try if you can tell me which file to use please?

I've tried ROM 1.20, 2.17c, 2.18 (obviously 2.18 and later doesn't load the floppy stuff after a res_128)

EDIT: Sorry, it was 2.19 I tried not 2.18

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