Hi,
I have an original untouched QL UK power brick which seems to be reliable at the moment and provides a clean 9v DC according to my scope. I'm wary of old PSUs especially from some of my other machines like the C64 where they're known to fail destructively and send 9v AC where it shouldn't be sent. Should I trust my QL supply, or have others done what I did to my C64 PSU and replace the DC regulation circuit with something modern like an LM259 regulator https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395716971624?
Best
Martin
Should I trust the original QL power brick?
Re: Should I trust the original QL power brick?
Hi,
I placed a small buck converter inside the PSU, the 9-10V as input and the SMPS set to deliver 6.5 or 7 v. This to limit the heat from dissipated by the 7805 inside the QL.
/Chris
I placed a small buck converter inside the PSU, the 9-10V as input and the SMPS set to deliver 6.5 or 7 v. This to limit the heat from dissipated by the 7805 inside the QL.
/Chris
Re: Should I trust the original QL power brick?
I would classify the QL power supply as "mostly harmless".martins wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:07 pm Hi,
I have an original untouched QL UK power brick which seems to be reliable at the moment and provides a clean 9v DC according to my scope. I'm wary of old PSUs especially from some of my other machines like the C64 where they're known to fail destructively and send 9v AC where it shouldn't be sent. Should I trust my QL supply, or have others done what I did to my C64 PSU and replace the DC regulation circuit with something modern like an LM259 regulator https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395716971624?
Best
Martin
In true Sinclair fashion, there's not much in there that could go bonkers, and in many years of QLing, I have never seen one rampage. They either work or don't.
Measurig the output voltage before connecting it to the QL won't hurt, though - As you already did.
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Re: Should I trust the original QL power brick?
Should be treated with caution. 7V is the very minimum if the QL still has its original 7805 regulator.Chris_68 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 1:41 pm I placed a small buck converter inside the PSU, the 9-10V as input and the SMPS set to deliver 6.5 or 7 v. This to limit the heat from dissipated by the 7805 inside the QL.
And regulation gets significantly worse below 8V input voltage.
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Re: Should I trust the original QL power brick?
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I don’t know if this is of any help, but fey months ago I started a QL, which was dormant for 36 years with it’s original PSU. Of course, before that I checked the voltages and everything was normal (yes, I heard a lot of horror stories about old Commodore C64 power units), and is working fine now…
Good luck...
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I don’t know if this is of any help, but fey months ago I started a QL, which was dormant for 36 years with it’s original PSU. Of course, before that I checked the voltages and everything was normal (yes, I heard a lot of horror stories about old Commodore C64 power units), and is working fine now…
Good luck...
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Re: Should I trust the original QL power brick?
Hi, I think replacing the regulator circuit with modern technology like LM259 regulator might be a wise choice. This helps to improve the stability and durability of the PSU, avoiding the risks associated with old PSU.
Re: Should I trust the original QL power brick?
Hi, there is no LM259 as such - probably a step-down switching regulator of the LM 259x family is meant, e.g. the LM2596.
Using a switching regulator reduces heat inside the QL case a lot and therefore improves the durability of the QL itself.
I don't think it will improve durability of the PSU though. Without additional measures, this type of regulator requires large amounts of input current when starting up. More than the QL's original linear regulator. Adding extra stress to the PSU on every power-up.
I have found the original QL power supplies very robust, unless they were abused.
Using a switching regulator reduces heat inside the QL case a lot and therefore improves the durability of the QL itself.
I don't think it will improve durability of the PSU though. Without additional measures, this type of regulator requires large amounts of input current when starting up. More than the QL's original linear regulator. Adding extra stress to the PSU on every power-up.
I have found the original QL power supplies very robust, unless they were abused.