RasPiQL

[XorA]

I have a GeeekPi USB->SATA case for Pi4 and a SATA SSD inside.

Also get rid of Buster distro and move to the Bullseye one. The new GFX stack makes a huge difference in desktop usability!

[Exile]

Hi

What sort of SSD do you use.

I use 120GB 2.5" SSDs. I think the last one I bought was a Gigabyte one (currently £14.99 on Amazon). The Pi4 is quite picky on the SATA to USB3 adaptor chips that it supports, so I buy those cables from either Pimoroni or Pihut, to make sure they are compatible. They are about £6.

[Derek_Stewart]

I have a GeeekPi USB->SATA case for Pi4 and a SATA SSD inside.

Also get rid of Buster distro and move to the Bullseye one. The new GFX stack makes a huge difference in desktop usability!

Sorry, I meant Bullseye...

[Derek_Stewart]

Hi

What sort of SSD do you use.

I use 120GB 2.5" SSDs. I think the last one I bought was a Gigabyte one (currently £14.99 on Amazon). The Pi4 is quite picky on the SATA to USB3 adaptor chips that it supports, so I buy those cables from either Pimoroni or Pihut, to make sure they are compatible. They are about £6.

Thank you for the advice, I have put an order for a USB-SATA adapter.

[pjw]

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I'll run a few tests when I get the time and post some more objective timings here.<>

Speed tests:

This is my standard test:

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100 t = DATE
110 FOR i = 0 TO 99999
120  AT 0,0: PRINT i,
130 END FOR i
140 PRINT\\ DATE - t

All tests ran in full screen mode with 16-bit colours, and except where
obvious or stated, with SMSQmulator V2.33.

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RasPiB4,        1920x1080,  35
Q68,            1024x512,  185
Labda *1        960x540,    10
Theta *2        1920x1080,  20
QPC2 Theta      1920x1080,   5

*1) Labda: i5-8250U, nominal 1.60GHz, running at ~3.30GHz, W11 Home
*2) Theta: i5-7500, nominal 3.40GHz, running at ~3.70GHz, W10 Pro

I was surprised that the Labda test ran so much faster than Theta. Theta is
rated the faster machine in raw power. Screen size? CPU optimisation from
G7 to G8?

[pjw]

Exile, XorA, Derek, ..

I presume you put the whole system on the SSD and boot off that? Could you
give a quick step-by-step overview of how you do that?

One day soon, M$ are going to stop supporting W10; my desktop machine is
not W11-compatible. This might be a good time for a serious paradigm shift
away from the whole PC/M$ thing and onto "simple", low-powered devices
that, hopefully, are less prone to corporate surveillance, exploitation and
control (at least for a while yet). The RasPi4 could be a step in the right
direction..

Yes, I would be happy with a hardware QL (in addition) for my QL "work",
but I NEED MORE SPEED for that to make it viable. I could possibly manage
with 3-5 times the speed of the Q68, 128Mb and a more flexible display
geometry (eg HD) but right now that seems over the horizon, so we soldier
on with the possibilities we have..

[Derek_Stewart]

Hi Per,

With regards to moving the RPI to SSD, a simple eeb earch should enough results, however, try this:
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/boo ... y-pi-4-usb

I would dump Windows now, and move to Linux, which Licence fee free. More secure operating system free of virus and spyware.

Your existing hardware is supported.

Most Windows software can be run under Wine, or there are Linux alternatives all free.

[Derek_Stewart]

Exile, XorA, Derek, ..

I presume you put the whole system on the SSD and boot off that? Could you
give a quick step-by-step overview of how you do that?

One day soon, M$ are going to stop supporting W10; my desktop machine is
not W11-compatible. This might be a good time for a serious paradigm shift
away from the whole PC/M$ thing and onto "simple", low-powered devices
that, hopefully, are less prone to corporate surveillance, exploitation and
control (at least for a while yet). The RasPi4 could be a step in the right
direction..

Yes, I would be happy with a hardware QL (in addition) for my QL "work",
but I NEED MORE SPEED for that to make it viable. I could possibly manage
with 3-5 times the speed of the Q68, 128Mb and a more flexible display
geometry (eg HD) but right now that seems over the horizon, so we soldier
on with the possibilities we have..

I do not think that comparing a system that runs at Ghz with multiple CPU cores againist a single core CPU running at Mhz speeds is fair.

Also the Q68 has 32Mb ram, with SD Card storage, how can a bloated Intel machine that needs multi Gb ram and hard disk to run, and the Q68 is 16bit, all Linux and Windows machines are 64 bit seems a bit if a difference there.

[Exile]

Hi Per,

With regards to moving the RPI to SSD, a simple eeb earch should enough results, however, try this:
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/boo ... y-pi-4-usb

To migrate a Pi4 system working with an sd-card to solely use an SSD, I made use of the usb-boot script attached to the first post of the thread at: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=196778

[Ruptor]

I use 120GB 2.5" SSDs. I think the last one I bought was a Gigabyte one (currently £14.99 on Amazon). The Pi4 is quite picky on the SATA to USB3 adaptor chips that it supports, so I buy those cables from either Pimoroni or Pihut, to make sure they are compatible. They are about £6.

Can you use this on USB instead of SATA?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394169017781 ... BM8r750-5g