Any thoughts on whether or not the Eidersoft ICE ROM will recognize IDE devices (WIN1_) connected via a QuBide (clone)?
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I would like to know If Ice Rom Mouse can be used as mouse in other applictations with some driver 

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I have never really investigated the ICE ROM, but to use the mouse in other applications, you would have to develop a form of PTR_GEN mouse driver which would translate the mouse inputs (captured using the Icicle toolkit) into PTR_GEN mouse strokes.
Not very easy - if you are developing your own application, then you could use the Icicle toolkit to incorporate the Ice Mouse.
Not very easy - if you are developing your own application, then you could use the Icicle toolkit to incorporate the Ice Mouse.
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Hi,
A long time ago, I used the with the Miracle Hard Drive plugged into the Rom Port and the ICE ROM Unit plugged in Miracle Hard Drive Rom Port, I think that the ICE Rom worked OK with the WIN device, though maybe I did configure ICE to recognise to the WIN device storage.
I will add this to the list of jobs I have to do. I have a ICE Rom unit, which in the lack of a ICE Mouse, I converted the Mouse output to work with an Atari Mouse... Only 2 buttons though.
I will set up a QL with ICE, QubIDE and see if I can remember what I did to get it working.
A long time ago, I used the with the Miracle Hard Drive plugged into the Rom Port and the ICE ROM Unit plugged in Miracle Hard Drive Rom Port, I think that the ICE Rom worked OK with the WIN device, though maybe I did configure ICE to recognise to the WIN device storage.
I will add this to the list of jobs I have to do. I have a ICE Rom unit, which in the lack of a ICE Mouse, I converted the Mouse output to work with an Atari Mouse... Only 2 buttons though.
I will set up a QL with ICE, QubIDE and see if I can remember what I did to get it working.
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Re: Does ICE ROM recognize WIN1 drives
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I don't know if ICE ROM is the same that ICE system software.
If it's the same, I tested 1.6 version and I found it's nice. You can change MDV1 /FLP1 /RAM1 to WIN1 and it works. The problem is that it can't handle directories so you can click in a executable but if you click in a directory nothing happens.
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I don't know if ICE ROM is the same that ICE system software.
If it's the same, I tested 1.6 version and I found it's nice. You can change MDV1 /FLP1 /RAM1 to WIN1 and it works. The problem is that it can't handle directories so you can click in a executable but if you click in a directory nothing happens.
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Re: Does ICE ROM recognize WIN1 drives
Hi,
I used to the ICE Rom System on a QL with a Miracle Hard Drive.
Since the ICE System did not know about Level 2 drivers (Subdirectories with a file type of 255), I had to use the Miracle Hard Drive command WIN2 to emulate a second WIN device, i.e. WIN2 and pointing the command to the desired subdirectory. This was done by using Minerva Muitibasic PIPEP command, a little messy but worked.
I was trying to reverse engineer ICE to give Level 2 compatibility, but the project did not progress any further than disassemble of the ICE Rom code.
Maybe this is something, that I could be picked up and develop, if any things it is good idea.
I used to the ICE Rom System on a QL with a Miracle Hard Drive.
Since the ICE System did not know about Level 2 drivers (Subdirectories with a file type of 255), I had to use the Miracle Hard Drive command WIN2 to emulate a second WIN device, i.e. WIN2 and pointing the command to the desired subdirectory. This was done by using Minerva Muitibasic PIPEP command, a little messy but worked.
I was trying to reverse engineer ICE to give Level 2 compatibility, but the project did not progress any further than disassemble of the ICE Rom code.
Maybe this is something, that I could be picked up and develop, if any things it is good idea.
Regards,
Derek
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It would be if I could persuade the rights owners to respond to emails...
Considering the rights to Eidersoft products are owned by a currently trading company you would think they would answer their damn emails!
Considering the rights to Eidersoft products are owned by a currently trading company you would think they would answer their damn emails!

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Hi,
I will dig out the disassembly, though I did it many years in DISA, so it should be easy to do, only 16K of code.
I suppose David Jones sold the rights to ICE to Eithersoft.
I will dig out the disassembly, though I did it many years in DISA, so it should be easy to do, only 16K of code.
I suppose David Jones sold the rights to ICE to Eithersoft.
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If I could get an answer out of Eidersoft I would know - no easy way of tracking down David Jones unfortunately..... He has not maintained any contact with the QL scene unlike another certain D. Jones.
From the brief response I had from the Company that Eidersoft became, it appears that they have the rights
but when I suggested that some of their software be re-released or made freeware they stopped replying.
From the brief response I had from the Company that Eidersoft became, it appears that they have the rights

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