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SOS My QL is dying

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:32 pm
by Qampero
Recently, I recovered a QL. A few days later, it started crashing at startup, and now it doesn't work at all.

The symptoms are as follows: when I connect the power supply, the video pattern appears on the screen, but unfortunately, it never completes. At the end of the random pattern, a white strip appears at the top of the screen, while the rest of the display remains in a random pattern. And that’s it—no further response.

It doesn't respond to the reset button. Occasionally, it reaches the F1/F2 screen, but the keyboard doesn't register any input, and it still doesn’t respond to reset.

Before replacing any ICs, I’d like to confirm where the fault is. Unfortunately, I currently only have a multimeter and a 200kHz oscilloscope.

Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas?

Thanks in advance!

Re: SOS My QL is dying

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:50 pm
by techy
Start by re-seating all ic's , and verify if the 68 is warming up .

be very carefull when lifting them !!

Re: SOS My QL is dying

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:18 pm
by jobdone
Which Rom are you using? I think my first thought is ZX8302 that would cause all those issues.

Re: SOS My QL is dying

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 10:21 pm
by Qampero
Thanks! My QL has a JM ROM and it's an Issue 6 board. I’ll try replacing the 8302—fortunately, I have a spare one.

I suspect there may be a bus-related issue. The last time I powered it on, after the random pattern appeared, it made some unusual noises and displayed a vertical pattern before crashing. Also, the microdrives activate randomly during startup, which doesn’t seem normal.

I think the 8301 is working, since the graphics appear to be generated correctly—VSync, HSync, and all video signals are present.
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Re: SOS My QL is dying

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 11:59 pm
by Qampero
I’ve replaced both the 8302 and the 8049. There's been a slight improvement—now it occasionally manages to boot, and sometimes even responds to the reset button.

However, after a few seconds (no more than 5), the system starts to degrade and eventually crashes, showing random values in memory (and video, of course) and becoming unresponsive again.

Re: SOS My QL is dying

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:47 am
by Pr0f
I'm wondering if you have an unstable voltage - is this machine still running with the 5v regulator? If it is, you could try replacing that - they are not soldered (usually) so it's a just a matter of opening the case, removing the screw that holds the regulator to the heatsink - and then do your replacement.