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QL startup issue
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:10 pm
by voutsasva
Hi everyone,
Ι need desperately your precious help. The issue is that on the boot up it displays red, green vertical bars and also white horizontal lines.
QL is connected to tv and the motherboard is issue 6.
What can I do to fix my favourite computer?
Thanks in advance,
Vassilis
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:50 pm
by tofro
Looks like a memory problem.
Either one of the RAM chips failed or one of the multiplexers (74LS257). If I had to guess, I'd guess the latter
what is your measuring equipment like? How's your soldering skills?
Tobias
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:16 pm
by voutsasva
Hi Tobias,
thanks for your reply. I will try to replace the two 74LS257.I hope not to need replacement the RAM chips, because it will be "painful" to find the faulty.
I have a multimeter, so If you have something in your mind to check please enlighten me.
Thanks,
Vassilis
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:03 am
by Martin_Head
voutsasva wrote:Hi Tobias,
thanks for your reply. I will try to replace the two 74LS257.I hope not to need replacement the RAM chips, because it will be "painful" to find the faulty.
I have a multimeter, so If you have something in your mind to check please enlighten me.
Thanks,
Vassilis
If it's a RAM chip, then a Minerva ROM should be able to tell you which chip is faulty during startup
Martin Head
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:54 pm
by stevepoole
Hi Folks,
I have a JS SGC, SuperHermes, romdisk, with twin ED floppydisk.
When I do a DIR there is no problem, but as soon as I try to load a superbasic program the QL locks up.
HD Programs load and run OK on QPC2...
This means many programs written on ED disks are no longer accessible to me.
What could have gone wrong?
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Steve Poole.
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:58 am
by Martin_Head
stevepoole wrote:Hi Folks,
I have a JS SGC, SuperHermes, romdisk, with twin ED floppydisk.
When I do a DIR there is no problem, but as soon as I try to load a superbasic program the QL locks up.
HD Programs load and run OK on QPC2...
This means many programs written on ED disks are no longer accessible to me.
What could have gone wrong?
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Steve Poole.
A few more details might help.
Is it just SuperBASIC programs that don't work? or executables as well?
Can you load programs from the romdisk OK?
What about Microdrives (if you have any cartridges)
Can you try another floppy disk drive, it doesn't have to be ED
Do you have any BOOT program (in the romdisk) that might be playing about with things like the FLP_STEP command, or other FLP_ commands which might confuse the floppy disk drives. It might be worth checking out the SGC manual and try setting all the FLP_ commands manually before trying to read a floppy disk.
What happens if you try to format a floppy disk?
Do the floppy disk drives just need cleaning with a cleaning disk?
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:01 am
by tofro
I am not sure if I get all of the question right. Are you saying "My setup works with HD disks, but not ED disks" (Because you mention QPC)?
Can you check what happens if you are not LOADing the S*Basic program, but rather VIEWing it? You might then be able to locate the corrupted part. Is there a certain point where it reproducibly stops?
The fact that LOADing seems to be working flawlessly on HD disks seems weird, like some buffer memory bad that is not used when HD floppies are involved.
Tobias
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:14 am
by Martin_Head
tofro wrote:I am not sure if I get all of the question right. Are you saying "My setup works with HD disks, but not ED disks" (Because you mention QPC)?
Can you check what happens if you are not LOADing the S*Basic program, but rather VIEWing it? You might then be able to locate the corrupted part. Is there a certain point where it reproducibly stops?
The fact that LOADing seems to be working flawlessly on HD disks seems weird, like some buffer memory bad that is not used when HD floppies are involved.
Tobias
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Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:15 am
by Martin_Head
An then it suddenly appeared...
Re: QL startup issue
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:54 pm
by stevepoole
Hi Folks,
Here is the beginning of answers to the various questions posed :
I try to load a program on HD diskette on my SGC ED floppy drive. Result, the loaded program is riddled with MIStakes, or the QL locks up.
I load the same program on the same diskette on a QPC2 PC with floppy drive and all is OK.
Normally the ED drives used to read HD disks OK.
Result : I can access my programs on HD diskettes on my QPC2 PC.
I cannot access programs on HD nor ED diskettes on my SGC QL.
The SGC QL reads programs OK off ROM1_ where most commercial programs are located.
Most of my own superbasic programs are on diskettes, many on ED...
I was trying to sort through my routines for the QL preservation scheme, which would have needed some tidying up!
Hope this helps...
Steve Poole.