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Mystery cable

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:16 pm
by Wrangler
Hi folks,

Quiz time: does anyone know what this cable is for?
Mystery cable
Mystery cable
It appears to be some sort of serial lead, but that's a 4-pin DIN plug at the end, so my initial guess of a MIDI cable is wrong. I certainly don't have anything that will accept it! :D

Thanks

Matthew

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:29 pm
by XorA
ZX Spectrum +2/+3 models have a midi port that would fit into.

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:22 pm
by Wrangler
Which end do you mean XorA? I thought 128K Spectrums had BT style sockets not DIN plugs for MIDI? I got this lead with some other QL stuff so I am guessing it is a QL lead first and foremost.

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:51 pm
by XorA
Exactly, BT style plug in the spectrum, DIN plug in the MIDI device.

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:20 pm
by dilwyn
There is a software MIDI for the QL which works via serial ports, by Mark Swift. See http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/sound/MIDI_Source.zip

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:52 pm
by prime
The Tandy Colour computer used a 4 pin DIN for it's serial port so maybe a QL to CoCo cable?

Have you tapped it out to see what pin is connected to what?

Cheers.

Phill.

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:37 pm
by Wrangler
Thanks Dilwyn! The thing is, it's a 4 pin DIN plug at the end not 5 which makes me think it's not MIDI - but happy to be wrong on this.

@prime: no, I was going the lazy route first and asking on here before checking out the connections! Gosh I remember the CoCo - pretty rare in the UK as I recall - but that was a real long time ago. I think it could multi-task too back before pretty much anything else could (bar the QL, of course!) :lol:

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:46 pm
by XorA
Ooops I completely missed the bit about it being 4-pin din.

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:03 pm
by Wrangler
Hmm, the plot thickens... I've done the non-lazy thing and traced the connections as follows. All are zero resistance (which rules out the QL/MIDI thing based on the severe warning in the file Dilwyn linked).

If I number the DIN plug contacts looking at it so the pins are facing me as follows:

o o
o | | o
1 2 3 4

then these connect up on the QL side as:

DIN QL
1 TxD
2 Gnd
3 CTS
4 N/c

(Barrel not connected either)

I really don't get this though! Why have connections on TxD and CTS but not RxD?? :?

(PS just found out the forum doesn't like leading spaces so my beautiful pinout diagram doesn't work!)

Re: Mystery cable

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:00 am
by 1024MAK

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