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tofro wrote:QPAC2's "Files" is such a candidate that updates the stuffer buffer, even if you only <CTRL>-C through it. But yes, you have that other method, which is perfectly fine.

pjw wrote:Now, if you can point me to some program, working in the background, without user intervention, that could at any moment change the stuffer buffer contents, that would worry me. In fact I would get rid of that program immediately and write to all my QLing friends recommending they do the same! I rest my case.

mk79 wrote:<>
Well, on my system I sync the stuffer buffer with the scrap and the scrap with the Windows clipboard, so even any Windows program could intervene

mk79 wrote:But, without kidding, I do see where Tofro is coming from, from a software architect perspective this is a big no-no, but then you do have the alternative. AND at the same time you're completely right, stuffer/clipboard changes are user driven and as the user will not do two things at the same time the method is 100% good enough for the intended purpose. It just leaves a professional uneasy feeling because it's only 99,99% perfect

pjw wrote:

mk79 wrote:<>
Well, on my system I sync the stuffer buffer with the scrap and the scrap with the Windows clipboard, so even any Windows program could intervene

Thats news to me. On MY system QPC_SYNCSCRAP only updates the Scrap Thing. The stuffer buffer is not involved. I dont see any reason to have it any other way.

If thats an intended future "upgrade" I hope it will be optional as the confusion it could cause could be catastrophic.

mk79 wrote:

pjw wrote:

mk79 wrote:<>
Well, on my system I sync the stuffer buffer with the scrap and the scrap with the Windows clipboard, so even any Windows program could intervene

Thats news to me. On MY system QPC_SYNCSCRAP only updates the Scrap Thing. The stuffer buffer is not involved. I dont see any reason to have it any other way.

Yes, that is not a general feature but a simple Basic program I execute at boot. This way I can copy something in Windows or QD and just hit Alt+Space to paste it into any application. I like it.

mk79 wrote:<>

pjw wrote:If thats an intended future "upgrade" I hope it will be optional as the confusion it could cause could be catastrophic.

Yeah yeah, calm down. I*ve been using it for 20 years and the world still exists, but this is not a general feature, so don't worry.

dilwyn wrote:<>
I use something similar, a little SBASIC job running which looks at SCRAP_CNT to see if QPC_SYNCSCRAP has modified the scrap, then if it has, HOT_STUFF the scrap into the stuffer buffer, so that I can ALT-SPACE it into a program which does not know how to use the scrap. Makes it dead easy to copy text from Windoze into QL programs.

10 REMark $$asmb=dev4_Q_stf_STUFF_BIN,0,10
11 REMark $$chan=1
12 REMark $$stak=4096
13 :
14 EXT_PROC 'JVA_SGET'
15 :
16 IF MACHINE = 20: JVA_SGET
17 STUFF -5, SCRAP_GET$
18 QUIT

17 SUSJB -1, 5: TYPE_IN SCRAP_GET$

pjw wrote:I dont understand why you need to monitor the scrap. Surely you know when youve used it and when you need it? This is mine:

mk79 wrote:

pjw wrote:I dont understand why you need to monitor the scrap. Surely you know when youve used it and when you need it? This is mine:

You know what, that's cool, too. I might try it sometime, thanks.<>

pjw wrote:

dilwyn wrote:<>
I use something similar, a little SBASIC job running which looks at SCRAP_CNT to see if QPC_SYNCSCRAP has modified the scrap, then if it has, HOT_STUFF the scrap into the stuffer buffer, so that I can ALT-SPACE it into a program which does not know how to use the scrap. Makes it dead easy to copy text from Windoze into QL programs.

I dont understand why you need to monitor the scrap. Surely you know when youve used it and when you need it? This is mine:

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10 REMark $$asmb=dev4_Q_stf_STUFF_BIN,0,10
11 REMark $$chan=1
12 REMark $$stak=4096
13 :
14 EXT_PROC 'JVA_SGET'
15 :
16 IF MACHINE = 20: JVA_SGET
17 STUFF -5, SCRAP_GET$
18 QUIT

I put in on ALT+v to stuff up to 4k of text from scrap (either COPIED/CUT from Windows, or from some "QL" job that knows about the Scrap Thing) into the current keyboard queue (SBASIC, an editor, some program, etc)

STUFF is a command to stuff a string into the keyboard queue. No stuffer buffer involvement at all! Possibly something like

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17 SUSJB -1, 5: TYPE_IN SCRAP_GET$

could be used instead. I dont know. Otherwise the whole thing is, of course, available as a compiled job from Knoware.no. Works in QPC2 and SMSQmulator provided Scrap is properly set up.