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Re: Windoze 11

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Pr0f wrote:You can run Linux in it as well ;-)
With WSL even at the same time :)


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Re: Windoze 11

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It was WSL I was thinking of - I use this at work when looking at customer evidence sometimes.

Apparently the later WSL 2 actually improves performance further by running the Linux in a proper Kernel space (kind of like a virtual machine rather than a subsystem).

But even the first version allows a choice of about 6 distros now.


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Pr0f wrote:It was WSL I was thinking of - I use this at work when looking at customer evidence sometimes.

Apparently the later WSL 2 actually improves performance further by running the Linux in a proper Kernel space (kind of like a virtual machine rather than a subsystem).

But even the first version allows a choice of about 6 distros now.
WSL2 is just a specialised version of HyperV Microsoft's equivalent of KVM/VMware....

WSL2 also has a gui through Wayland so you can run gui Linux apps on windows desktop without an X server.


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I had a quick look at this via https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/

Sounds useful. Maybe I'll make time (and space on my SSD) to look at this sometime this year.


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Got a new Win11 PC a few days ago.
My old Win10 PCX died without warning and showed no sign of ever working again.
I was going to retire it this year as I was informed it lacked a little doobrie that was no longer made for the motherboard.
Apart from an issue of me not realising there was a hidden hard drive housing in the base of the machine it seems to work OK.
I have 2 other Win11 machines that work fine.
TBH I've not noticed much difference as a user between Win10 and Win11 apart from cosmetic changes and the usual bloatware being installed as standard.
Do I need 22 different versions of Office365 or OneNote. Nope. So had to manually uninstall all of them.
LibreOffice does what's necessary.
Re-installing browsers is a pain - have to through every single setting to max privacy.
Damn things keep updating and you can't trust any of them.


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Re: Windoze 11

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I agree, Richard.

The cosmetic changes take a little getting used to - the rounded corners to everything - looks a little odd at the bottom left of QPC2 when its windows fill its screen area, you lose a pixel or two of the bottom left of the lower window to the 'curve' if it's right at the bottom. Can work around that by using a theme which doesn't have rounded corners to some extent (they are hard to find and usually involve some 3rd party software), although those themes generally don't look as good. Amazingly, Win11 doesn't let you turn off rounded corners without using a 3rd party 'patcher', probably a bit risky. And it is sometimes annoying when you take screen shots.
Rounded QPC2 corner
Rounded QPC2 corner
The different spacings of text in File Explorer for example (meaning fewer items are listed in a window unless you switch to Compact View).
And yes, the constant updating - it keeps slowing to a crawl to tell you an update is about to happen! But it's nice and stable apart from the fact that sometimes it switches on, it detects all three monitors, other times I just get two. Yet to figure out why. Even "Detect Other Display" sometimes doesn't find it, I have to restart Windows then to get the third monitor back.
And the reduced context (right click) menus were annoying until I found out how to restore them.

At least the update to Win11 was 'free' for me once I got the PC into a state where it would upgrade. Saved it from enforced retirement this year, so was worth doing since it's a pretty decent PC - will be a shame when so many PCs are scrapped this year.

Very importantly, the QL emulators I've used so far all seem to work on Win11.


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