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I have the Qimsi in my QL with Minerva ROM (TK2 disabled by jumper) and it runs fine. :D

Mainly obtained the Qimsi because of the SD and the possibility to use USB keyboard and mouse support.

I also have the Tetroid Super Gold Card clone.

But whenever i let it boot from FLP, then no SD (win1_) available anymore...
Also: my USB keyboard does not work (tried several) after loading driver.
(did not test mouse yet)

Any ideas?

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Re: Breaking news: The QIMSI Interface

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For your first problem:

try "win_ use win" after booting from FLP.

USB K/Bs will not work, must be PS/2 or combo K/B. Also try different adapters, some fail to work.


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Thanks Maskenlos.

"win_" or "win1_" does not work both, it shows:

129
1434/1440 sectors

and it shows "not found" when TK2 not loaded.

Have now ordered some passive adaptors to PS/2 cable. Will see.


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Re: Breaking news: The QIMSI Interface

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Hi,

very strange. Dilwyn explained in detail what to do after booting from floppy. I have no idea why it is not working with the SGC clone.
You may try "dir mdv1_" after booting from floppy. This may show the directory from win1_ as below:
3. If the QL has a floppy disk drive and you boot from a floppy disc for any reason, the magic of the startup sequences leaves the WIN device of the QIMSI named as MDV. It's a side-effect of the way interfaces boot up by changing their names as they boot up. I only found out because I left a floppy with a BOOT program on it in the drive overnight by mistake. After the floppy BOOT program ran, the device called WIN didn't exist - DIR WIN1_ failed. DIR MDV1_ gave a listing of the SD-card! So I had to use a WIN_USE "win" command to manually change the SD-card device name from MDV to WIN if the QL had booted from floppy disk on the Gold Card.
Stephan


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Hi Stephan,

Yes, this is it exactly.
Thanks again for helping me out. Saves me from a lot of hair pulling.
Have a nice day,
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Maskenlos wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:13 pm Hi,

very strange. Dilwyn explained in detail what to do after booting from floppy. I have no idea why it is not working with the SGC clone.
You may try "dir mdv1_" after booting from floppy. This may show the directory from win1_ as below:
3. If the QL has a floppy disk drive and you boot from a floppy disc for any reason, the magic of the startup sequences leaves the WIN device of the QIMSI named as MDV. It's a side-effect of the way interfaces boot up by changing their names as they boot up. I only found out because I left a floppy with a BOOT program on it in the drive overnight by mistake. After the floppy BOOT program ran, the device called WIN didn't exist - DIR WIN1_ failed. DIR MDV1_ gave a listing of the SD-card! So I had to use a WIN_USE "win" command to manually change the SD-card device name from MDV to WIN if the QL had booted from floppy disk on the Gold Card.
Stephan
I hope that's helped anyone who runs into that issue. Although it didn't take long to figure out what was happening, it did have me quite worried before I learned what was causing it.


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Re: Breaking news: The QIMSI Interface

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Good News and i’m happy to buy one when it’s available


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Fred de Boer wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:22 pm Good News and i’m happy to buy one when it’s available
It is a great addition for you QL. However from now on only the Qimsi Gold will be delivered upon request. I have ordered mine for my second QL
Please be aware that you need PS2 mouse + Keyboard. Note that USB will not work, als I tested some USB mouses from the "working" list, but they don't. PS2 all work that I tested in my situation.


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Fred de Boer wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:22 pm Good News and i’m happy to buy one when it’s available
Hi Fred, I am happy to put you on the waiting list. Just be a little patient.

Best regards,

Stephan


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Re: Breaking news: The QIMSI Interface

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roadrash wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:38 pm Please be aware that you need PS2 mouse + Keyboard. Note that USB will not work, als I tested some USB mouses from the "working" list, but they don't.
The current hardware interface implemented in the QIMSI FPGA is indeed PS/2.
This means that pure USB mice won't work, but not that USB mice won't work in general!
Many USB mice also have a PS/2 interface and are socalled combo mice.
They usually come with a USB connector at the cable plus a passive PS/2 adaptor.
In that case, the passive PS/2 adaptor can be omitted, and the USB plug of the mouse directly connected to the OTG adaptor.

Side note: I'm privately experimenting with pure USB mouse support for QIMSI.
It works, but only supports a subset of the USB HID specification, called the "Boot Protocol". This is much simpler than the "Report Protocol", which is used by the big USB stacks in Linux or Windows. Unfortunately, some fancy USB mice don't seem to support this protocol simplification, so I'm reluctant to fully switch to USB. Most people have working combo or PS/2 mouse configurations, so true (but limited) USB support might do more harm than good.

And before the question even comes up: I will definitely not write or port a full Windows/Linux-like USB stack for QDOS.


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