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Re: The BEST QL Editor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:20 am
by dilwyn
tofro wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:50 am
t0nyt wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:09 am
tofro wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:54 am
Even today, most of the vi commands have left their traces in muscle memory.
I’m using QED on the QL and I still keep trying to use vi keystrokes even though I haven’t really used it since the early 00’s
I used to have a colleague whose text files sporadically had an arbitrary "ZZ" at the end for no apparent reason
When writing in Welsh, I suffer from Double Consonant-itis - I can never remember where there are double n's and double r's in words like "torri" or "annwyl".
A work colleague used to tell me off for getting it wrong. So I shut him up by adding a few extra r's and n's to the bottom of emails, with the message in Welsh "a few spare rrrrr and nnnnn for you to copy and paste to where I got it wrong."
He soon stopped correcting me.
Re: The BEST QL Editor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:21 am
by dilwyn
NormanDunbar wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:29 am
EMACS?
Micro_EMACS?
Cheers,
Norm. (Posting from outside the supermarket until we get broadband!)
Grab a couple of Gold Cards while you're there!
Re: The BEST QL Editor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:58 am
by Derek_Stewart
NormanDunbar wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:29 am
EMACS?
Micro_EMACS?
I feel the urge to port Vi/Vim to the QL!
I remember using Micro_EMACS on a QL with Trump Card and floppies way back in the very early 1990s, maybe late 1980s, and it was an evil bugger to get to grips with. I stopped using it shortly afterwards. It just didn't work for me. Years later, at work, I had to use Vi, so that's the side of that religious argument that I'm on.
However, the best editor for the QL is whichever one helps you get the task done most efficiently and without getting in your way. My own editor these days is VSCode or Sublime Text (paid for!) On Linux, then uploaded to QPC2. Works for everything except QL non standard characters like copyright, Euro and arrow key characters.
Cheers,
Norm. (Posting from outside the supermarket until we get broadband!)
Hi Norm,
Dave Walker has ported over Elvis v1.6
https://dilwyn.theqlforum.com/editview/elvis.zip
Which is supposed to be a nicer VI(M)
But also use DPs TheEditorSE turbo compiled basic with source.
Re: The BEST QL Editor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:14 pm
by Pr0f
NormanDunbar wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:29 am
EMACS?
Micro_EMACS?
I feel the urge to port Vi/Vim to the QL!
...
Cheers,
Norm. (Posting from outside the supermarket until we get broadband!)
NOOO!
I have to use vi a fair bit at work - and I have to say I hate it. It's similar enough to Xedit which I used to use on IBM Mainframes - but annoyingly different in the places that matter.
Now if someone would port Xedit... (We already have REXX apparently)
Re: The BEST QL Editor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:22 pm
by Derek_Stewart
Pr0f wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:14 pm
NormanDunbar wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 7:29 am
EMACS?
Micro_EMACS?
I feel the urge to port Vi/Vim to the QL!
...
Cheers,
Norm. (Posting from outside the supermarket until we get broadband!)
NOOO!
I have to use vi a fair bit at work - and I have to say I hate it. It's similar enough to Xedit which I used to use on IBM Mainframes - but annoyingly different in the places that matter.
Now if someone would port Xedit... (We already have REXX apparently)
REXX was ported by Jim Gilmour in the 1990s, which is available on the QL Homepage.
I have never used REXX, but it looks fully featured, is Xedit source code available?
Re: The BEST QL Editor
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:33 pm
by Pr0f
Rexx did make an appearance on the Amiga too - Arexx - and was quite a fully featured version of it.
I think Xedit was ported to Windows / Linux under the name Sedit - but not sure the source code ever got released, and it was, what processor that would have been for.