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Re: QL's external MDV port

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These need adding per external QL Microdrive:-
TR4 / TR5 = BC184
TR6 / TR7 = ZTX551
D16 / D17 = 1N4148
C19 / C20 = 47nF
C21 / C22 = 22uF
R26 / R27 = 3.3K
R28 / R29 = 1K
R32 / R33 = 820R
R105 / R106 = 1K
D20 / D21 = LED
(Only one of each, two component ID's listed, as the QL main board has two of each, one for each Microdrive).

See the schematics (available here).

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Re: QL's external MDV port

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Hi Mark,

Thank you.
I wonder what difference it makes, if I connected Issue#5 MD Unit to the external port of Issue#6 QL Main Board?

Many thanks so far.

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Re: QL's external MDV port

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The listed items are mainly for controlling the motor and the drive active LED...

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Re: QL's external MDV port

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Hi Mark,

Thank you.
Would you know how to adjust drive motor speed, as my MDV2_ appears a wee bit faster to MDV1_.
Many thanks so far.

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Re: QL's external MDV port

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A lot of the little 'tape recorder' motors had a hole in the bottom for adjusting the motor speed (may be covered with a label). I don't know if the QL one's are like this.

Unless the speed is way off and causing problems swapping cartridges between the two drives. I would tend to leave well alone. If you start fiddling with it, you may not be able to put it back as it was, and end up with more problems.

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Martin_Head wrote:A lot of the little 'tape recorder' motors had a hole in the bottom for adjusting the motor speed (may be covered with a label). I don't know if the QL one's are like this.

Unless the speed is way off and causing problems swapping cartridges between the two drives. I would tend to leave well alone. If you start fiddling with it, you may not be able to put it back as it was, and end up with more problems.

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I have experimented with this (long years ago) and have found out, that changing the speed higher gave up to 245 sectors for newly formatted cartridges. Ok, just wth my motor ;-).


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Most cases I've seen in the past (when I still had some working tapes), the tape speed depended much more on mechanical adjustments than on any electronic parameters. Actually, there are no means to adjust the speed through a potentiometer or anything, if you are asking for that. You would need to replace the resistors and caps in the motor driver circuitry.

But anyhow: The microdrive hard- and software is designed to be very well able to cope with varying tape speeds - Even if you got your drives to work at the exact same speed, you couldn't adjust anybody else's ;) I would just leave it as it is and be happy with it ;)

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Ralf R. wrote: I have experimented with this (long years ago) and have found out, that changing the speed higher gave up to 245 sectors for newly formatted cartridges. Ok, just wth my motor ;-).
Very unlikely, Ralf, your memory might trick you. Actually, you'd need to have the tape running slower instead of faster to get more sectors onto it. Think about it.

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Re: QL's external MDV port

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There is no electronic speed control on the QL's main board or the Sinclair Microdrive PCB's.
However, see this later post for details of the actual motor.

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tofro wrote:
Ralf R. wrote: I have experimented with this (long years ago) and have found out, that changing the speed higher gave up to 245 sectors for newly formatted cartridges. Ok, just wth my motor ;-).
Very unlikely, Ralf, your memory might trick you. Actually, you'd need to have the tape running slower instead of faster to get more sectors onto it. Think about it.

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No, I know it. I am unsure if more slow or more fast, but I have set it to get 245 sectors. And it was able to read all other mdv. I had built a QL in a separate case and wanted to use one mdv for drive 1 and 2. And this is possible if you put a germanium diode in the drive select line. Then you can use one mdv for 1 and 2.


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