
QL Commercial Software Preservation
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Yes please - that is definitely missing. 

Rich Mellor
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
As far as I remember, the QFlash RAM disk also has a way, to read MDVs into RAM (it was years before ramprt). But I do not remember the detailed sequence.RWAP wrote:You can use the simple Toolkit II command, WCOPY mdv2_ TO flp1_ to copy the cartridge to disk. However, I have a Trump Card which has a much more useful utility. FORMAT ram1_mdv2
Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Rich,
I'll send you the Adder assembler later today / this evening - I first need to scan the manual.
Willem
I'll send you the Adder assembler later today / this evening - I first need to scan the manual.
Willem
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
At the risk of perhaps going over old territory. What about the Preservation of the old PD & Shareware libraries.
I know a lot of it is available on Dilwyn Jones Web site, but I was thinking of the actual library disks, rather than the programs on them.
They could be stored as zipped up disk images, which could be read by an emulator, or copied back to a floppy disk.
I don't see that there should be any great copy write issues, as they were shareware disks to start with.
I know a lot of it is available on Dilwyn Jones Web site, but I was thinking of the actual library disks, rather than the programs on them.
They could be stored as zipped up disk images, which could be read by an emulator, or copied back to a floppy disk.
I don't see that there should be any great copy write issues, as they were shareware disks to start with.
Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Dilwyn,
If you create ISOs for the CDROMs, I will happily host them on my webspace and make them freely downloadable. I can even create an intro page for each one. This way, anyone can create perfect copies of any CDROM.
If you create ISOs for the CDROMs, I will happily host them on my webspace and make them freely downloadable. I can even create an intro page for each one. This way, anyone can create perfect copies of any CDROM.
Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
I'm with you Rich, you knowRWAP wrote:Over the years I have acquired copies of and built up quite a library of commercial QL Software titles - a lot more than currently appears on the QL Wiki.
For simplicity (for me), the programs have been stripped off microdrive cartridge and transferred to floppy disk. I have then copied them onto my PC's hard drive using q-emulator (into folders sorted by publisher and by software title).
This is my version of the QL Software Preservation Project.
There are however, various issues I face (including my health) and am therefore looking for someone willing to partner with me and help take this project further forward.
a) There is quite a lot of software where I cannot get it working under q-emulator - it may be down to copy protection, or some of the files being corrupt.
b) I do not have copies of a lot of the software - and microdrive cartridges are becoming more and more expensive to acquire in the vain hope that I can read them!
c) I don't have a lot of time to do this - although a few people do help the project by cracking some of the copy protection, or paying a small fee for a working backup copy which helps to fund the acquisition of more second hand microdrive cartridges for preservation.
d) There are quite a large number of programs I have not tested on q-emulator, or even sorted as yet.
e) A lot of the information is still missing from the QL Wiki - there are literally 100s of programs and software houses listed in old QL Users which need to be written up and entered onto the WIki.
f) Last but not least are the copyright (IP) issues - I have successfully tracked down some of the copyright holders, but this is never easy. Following discussions with them, if they agree to it being made public domain, then I have forwarded copies to Dilwyn for hosing on the Sinclair QL Homepage. Otherwise, if they are willing to allow the software to be re-released commercially, then I have offered it on a commercial basis.
I am concerned that if my health does not improve, very little progress will be made in this over the next couple of years, exacerbating the problems.
So, what can you do to help?
1) If you can look through old copies of QL World / QL User / QL Today / QL Leisure Review / QL Technical Review and QL Adventurers Forum (and other magazines) and add information to the QL Wiki about companies and software titles, then please do - advertising blurb will help.
2) If you can track down or contact any of the copyright holders, then please do so - if you want advice on what to say to them, then please let me know. It is also worth checking with me to see if I contacted them previously and whether I had any success.
3) I am looking for 2 volunteers to come forward who will help sort out, test and preserve the software (I have over 100 -200 microdrive cartridges here which need sorting and possibly transferring).
You will need access to a QL with at least one good quality microdrive unit, a disk interface, and Q-emuLator on the PC, with a broadband connection. I would suggest that my current preservation project folder is then shared using DropBox for these purposes - this will mean that we will all see the same folders, and they will all be backed up on our local PCs.
We need to maintain a list somewhere of missing in action titles - I started a thread on here, but it is not easy to maintain!
Due to the copyright and Intellectual Property restrictions on the software - all of the folders and microdrive cartridges being shared would be treated as owned by RWAP Software with you working as unpaid sub-contractors. You would need to agree not to share any of the software with any third party without written authority from the copyright holder.
4) I am also looking for a volunteer or two to help crack copy-protected software. It may well be that you have a disk based version of the software (which has either been cracked or has no copy protection already). This will help the team under (3) above.
Just a quick comment before this attracts a whole host of negative comments....
-- Please do not moan about the copyright position, or say that all this should be uploaded to a website and made freely available. Due to my background, I cannot condone software piracy or breaches of copyright. If you want to start up your own preservation project and 'publish and be damned' then feel free (and take the risk), but unfortunately, I will not be a part of it and will defend the rights of where software is still commercially available!

I'm searching all over the world new SW that aren't preserved, so we will go on and on

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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
It looks as though Tasman Software products may well be available as freeware (Tasprint QL and Tascopy QL) reading the permission from Accusoft Pegasus (who acquired Tasman Software in 2008/9) - see
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/showwrap ... ftware.pmt
I have emailed Accusoft Pegasus for confirmation.
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/showwrap ... ftware.pmt
I have emailed Accusoft Pegasus for confirmation.
Rich Mellor
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Hi Rich,
Reading your lines about commercial titles preservation, I would like to also lend a hand.
Although I do not have the QL floppy, I learnt to transfer files between the QL and PC over serial line. I have very many of my own felt pads plus a number of Dave's from the US.
My QL is JS ROM, with TK2 on CARE cartridge, and 512K of Simple RAM addon.
I was busy with Thomas Much PD titles, GAM ready & compiled and sent to you with a manual.
I could perhaps also take some simple tasks with commercial preservation.
Cheers
Tomas
Reading your lines about commercial titles preservation, I would like to also lend a hand.
Although I do not have the QL floppy, I learnt to transfer files between the QL and PC over serial line. I have very many of my own felt pads plus a number of Dave's from the US.
My QL is JS ROM, with TK2 on CARE cartridge, and 512K of Simple RAM addon.
I was busy with Thomas Much PD titles, GAM ready & compiled and sent to you with a manual.
I could perhaps also take some simple tasks with commercial preservation.
Cheers
Tomas
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Thanks Tomas - that is a great help thank you.
I might send you a box of microdrive cartridges which need to be sorted through and preserved
I might send you a box of microdrive cartridges which need to be sorted through and preserved

Rich Mellor
RWAP Software
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Re: QL Commercial Software Preservation
Ta Ta Ta Ta
I finally have found Computer One Monitor, but not Version 1 (its on Dilwyns page), but version 2 (Professional Monitor). I even have the printed manual. Unfortunately I haven't found the original disk, just the C1MON executeable - it runs on QPC2 :-)
Advantage of Professional Monitor:
Symbolic Debugging (i. e. you mustn't enter cryptic address, but can use the labels (can be stored in the obj-file with the GST-linker - the obj-file with symbols must of course be accessible, when you do symbolic debugging)
It has an in build assembler, which can also be used for single line assembly (i. e. an "assembler interpreter").
It is a much more sophisticated version of the V1 C1MON, which IMHO was the most powerfull monitor for the QL, beside V2 C1MON (albeit not so comfortable as others - you had to learn a lot of commands).
The question is, if it is also Freeware as the V1 CMON?
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Edited: Typo
I finally have found Computer One Monitor, but not Version 1 (its on Dilwyns page), but version 2 (Professional Monitor). I even have the printed manual. Unfortunately I haven't found the original disk, just the C1MON executeable - it runs on QPC2 :-)
Advantage of Professional Monitor:
Symbolic Debugging (i. e. you mustn't enter cryptic address, but can use the labels (can be stored in the obj-file with the GST-linker - the obj-file with symbols must of course be accessible, when you do symbolic debugging)
It has an in build assembler, which can also be used for single line assembly (i. e. an "assembler interpreter").
It is a much more sophisticated version of the V1 C1MON, which IMHO was the most powerfull monitor for the QL, beside V2 C1MON (albeit not so comfortable as others - you had to learn a lot of commands).
The question is, if it is also Freeware as the V1 CMON?
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Edited: Typo
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